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| Interview Supplement — Post-Round 3 Direction | Post-round 3 design direction decisions from facilitator interview with Jeroen | workshop | archived | wheres-the-fun | 3 | 2026-03-05 |
Interview Supplement — Post-Round 3 Direction
Where's the Fun? Workshop | 2026-03-05
After Round 3 proposals were submitted, the facilitator resolved the 4 open tensions with Jeroen and collected additional design direction. This document captures all of that verbatim.
Tension 1: Career Bookmarks — Resolved as "Different Framing Needed"
The wiki-review workshop (Feb 12) established 8 fluid PC archetypes. Jeroen rejected the archetype list as the right framing for bookmarks.
Jeroen's direction: "CK3 is a lot more apt here than even just the bookmarks. It allows for family creation, religion selection, culture selection, skill selection, skill level setting. We don't want D&D style base stats, but shooting proficiency will help when handling a gun. Somewhere between CK3 and The Sims I feel is the sweet spot with skills. This is even more important than job/archetype. The player plays how they want. The job/archetype/starting environment determine what is in the toolbox, not what the character is like. Borrow a character creation budget from CK3 (with console cheat options) to bound people from becoming OP."
Key principles:
- Character creation (skills, culture, family, budget) is MORE fundamental than job/bookmark choice
- Skills are proficiencies (shooting, hacking, social manipulation, mechanical repair), NOT D&D base stats
- Job/archetype/starting environment = the toolbox (inserts, contacts, access), NOT the character's personality
- CK3-style point budget with console cheat option for unconstrained builds
- The archetype list from the wiki workshop is not exhaustive and needs revisiting for the life-sim pivot
Tension 2: First 30 Minutes — Resolved as "Groundhog Day"
Jeroen's direction: "Groundhog Day. The day starts with an alarm clock, and a calendar ping that says you are expected at onboarding location X (bank/job/train station) or nowhere if you go clean, and you then have to open a job board or phone book to start figuring it out through your insert (experienced player warning on this mode)."
The flow:
- Character creation (CK3-style)
- Pick starting situation (bookmark = job + location + relationships + tools)
- Day 1: Alarm clock. Calendar ping with destination (or nothing for clean start).
- Bookmarked: go to your appointment, onboarding begins
- Clean start: no appointment, figure it out via job board/phone book/insert. Experienced player warning.
Tension 3: Missions — Resolved as "Emergent Life, Not Missions"
Jeroen's direction: "Let me rephrase mission with emergent things that happen in the context of what the player chooses to do. Sometimes this will be a mission (like an assassination target) most of the times it will be more of a 'I have a plan, let's see if it flies' situation. The first situation is a mission with a reward layer, the second is, you spent a day cooking at the bar you work at, met some people, ended a fight in an alley and then went home with finally enough money saved to buy that car the day after."
Three career models coexisting:
- Active — you're at the workplace, the work IS the gameplay (cooking at the bar, patrolling as law enforcement)
- WFH/Remote — portable work you can do anywhere, income while exploring (hacking contracts, writing, remote consulting via insert)
- Gig/Freelance — pick jobs from a board, outcomes vary by quality, no fixed hours (smuggling runs, fixer contracts, bounty hunting)
Reference games confirmed by Jeroen:
- The Sims (life sim framing, relationship systems, career models)
- CK3 (character creation, bookmarks, dynasty, skill budgets)
- Rimworld (storyteller escalation, dramatic timing, AI-driven events)
- Dwarf Fortress (emergent history, world doesn't care about you)
- Kenshi (sandbox survival, the world is indifferent, you are not special)
Tension 4: Endgame — Resolved as "Include Hooks"
Plant small seeds in v0.2 (skill progression hints, insert upgrade paths) that point toward the transhumanist ladder without implementing it. Don't foreclose the path; don't build it yet.
Critical Sequencing — The Two-Phase Approach
Jeroen's explicit sequencing for v0.2:
Phase 1: The uncaring world. The generator runs. Geography -> infrastructure -> zones -> population -> routines. NPCs go about their days. The economy ticks. The simulation doesn't know or care that a player exists. This must feel natural-but-artificial before anything authored enters. Primitive components tied together producing emergent complexity. Reference: the Generator Architecture workshop established the Cities Skylines top-down pipeline model with 14 confirmed D-records.
Phase 2: Authored content injected. Once the world runs and feels alive, quest/mission components are randomized into the simulation — not as scripted sequences but as authored ingredients (triangle templates, FRIEND arcs, contradiction arcs) placed by the generator into the living world. The Rimworld storyteller decides WHEN and HOW MUCH PRESSURE, not WHAT HAPPENS.
Jeroen's words: "Emergent complexity like this will start with the uncaring world generating properly. And a lot just happening from primitive components tied together. Once that runs and feels natural (but artificial) is when we start with authored quest and mission components we randomize into the gameplay."
This is the order. World first, then content.